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Burley Canto w/26" front..?

Discussion in 'Recumbent Discussions' started by BonaWho, Dec 16, 2017.  |  Print Topic

  1. BonaWho

    BonaWho

    Region:
    South
    State/Country:
    TN
    City:
    Hermitage
    Ride:
    Raleigh upright
    New to recumbents and I was curious about this bike and want to learn more about it.

    Why not a 26" front wheel and could one be added? Would their be any advantages, wheel options better? handling?
    (I understand a longer fork would be needed.) may not be a useful option.

    I'm also curious of reviews and opinions of long term owners of Canto's

    Meanwhile I do some forum searching, the web didn't turn up much and I noticed at Burley . com that they don't list recumbents??
     
  2. Geyatautsilvsgi

    Geyatautsilvsgi Supporter

    Region:
    SouthEast
    State/Country:
    TN
    City:
    Seymour
    Ride:
    ?
    Name:
    Geyatautsilvsgi
    Burley simply shut down their recumbent division years ago, not because they weren't profitable or because they did not have s good product, but because they were making much MORE money with their bike trailers. It was a pure business decision. They sold their recumbent division.
     
  3. BonaWho

    BonaWho

    Region:
    South
    State/Country:
    TN
    City:
    Hermitage
    Ride:
    Raleigh upright
    From what I've read 2006 was the last year? A particular Canto I'm looking at has disc brakes front and rear. I assuming it's one of the last models since I found a road test on a 2002 w/o discs.
     
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  4. A.D.

    A.D. #1 Custodian

    Region:
    SouthEast
    State/Country:
    TN
    City:
    Athens
    Ride:
    Reynolds T-Bone
    Name:
    AD
    :welcome6: BonaWho!

    My guess is, with a 20" front wheel more potential customers could get their feet on the ground easier. Here is what the BicycleMan has to say about the Canto and this is an archived page that *Jose A. Hernandez posted long ago. Meanwhile, RoadBikeReview has a page on the Canto as well here.

    As for going to a 26" front wheel, my first test would be to sit on the bike with the frontend raised up so I could sense how I would be able to reach the ground during starts/stops. One advantage would be, only needing to carry one-size of spare tube/tire. :thumbsup: In general, a larger wheel should offer a bit smoother ride on rough surfaces, but with a longer fork your minimum turning radius will increase by a bit.
     
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  5. WardJ

    WardJ

    Region:
    SouthEast
    State/Country:
    GA
    City:
    Columbus
    Ride:
    Windcheetah SS #481
    Jose, that's another missing friend. I met him years ago at A RR get together in Atlanta I believe and again at Sebring.
     
  6. Geyatautsilvsgi

    Geyatautsilvsgi Supporter

    Region:
    SouthEast
    State/Country:
    TN
    City:
    Seymour
    Ride:
    ?
    Name:
    Geyatautsilvsgi
    The Burley recumbent division was purchased in 2007 and moved to TN. There were prototypes made using a 26" front wheel on borh the canto and the Koosah.
     
  7. BonaWho

    BonaWho

    Region:
    South
    State/Country:
    TN
    City:
    Hermitage
    Ride:
    Raleigh upright
    Went to a recumbent bike shop, the only two-wheels were hanging way up on the wall, the floor was stocked full of trikes.

    Maybe I need to reconsider?

    Merry Christmas!!
     
  8. WardJ

    WardJ

    Region:
    SouthEast
    State/Country:
    GA
    City:
    Columbus
    Ride:
    Windcheetah SS #481
    Really comes down to what you want and what you will ride. There are pros and cons to both. Trikes are heavier and slower but if you aren't in a hurry so what. If it's hilly where you live just make sure you have plenty of low gearing. You also don't have to worry about balancing with three wheels. However, they can be more difficult to transport and store. I say ride as many Recumbent Bikes and Trikes as you can before you buy.
     
  9. A.D.

    A.D. #1 Custodian

    Region:
    SouthEast
    State/Country:
    TN
    City:
    Athens
    Ride:
    Reynolds T-Bone
    Name:
    AD
    Trikes are getting to be quite popular, as the Baby Boomers are retiring and looking for fun activites to pass their newfound free-time with. If you're not in a big rush and are just out for an easy ride, they are hard to beat. I was always envious of CaTrikeGirl when we'd come to a STOP at an intersection, because she never had to unclip to check for traffic. That plus many trikes are as comfortable as a hammock when you're laid back in one. So if a hill is just too-big in one continuous effort, no problem just stop and rest for awhile and go again when you feel like it. :wink9:

    However for the Paul Harvery Page 2 of the matter, while I have only 1 trike...I have many two-wheel recumbents. :twitcy:
     
  10. BonaWho

    BonaWho

    Region:
    South
    State/Country:
    TN
    City:
    Hermitage
    Ride:
    Raleigh upright
    Slower?? I've been reading that they are faster?

    I'm thinking a trike is going to take up more space than I want but they do feel comfortable. Two wheels look almost as comfortable but will take up less space.
    Either way the best advice is to ride both and as many as I can.
     
  11. Geyatautsilvsgi

    Geyatautsilvsgi Supporter

    Region:
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    City:
    Seymour
    Ride:
    ?
    Name:
    Geyatautsilvsgi
    Two wheels take up less space. Trikes take up more.
    Two wheels weigh less. Trikes are heavier.
    Two wheels can often times fit on a regular bike rack. Trikes need special rack or can fold and go in small place.
    Two wheels can lean in to a curve much better. Trikes will roll if not careful, must take curves with certain technique.
    Two wheels are faster due being more aerodynamic. Trikes are wider and are less aerodynamic, but can still have speed.
    Two wheels require movement and balance to remain upright. Trikes have three wheels...no balance issue.

    In the end, it all depends on personal preference and personal fitness level.
     
  12. A.D.

    A.D. #1 Custodian

    Region:
    SouthEast
    State/Country:
    TN
    City:
    Athens
    Ride:
    Reynolds T-Bone
    Name:
    AD
    Ward is right, trikes are slower than two wheel bicycles. However that said, a heavy two wheel bicycle might be slower than a high-end, lightweight performance oriented trike. In my experience on a given route, I will always be 2 to 4mph faster on a bike than I will be on a trike. Part of that is the balance issue, since I can go as slow as I might want on a trike while climbing hills, whereas on a bike I am always forced to maintain my balance and never go too slow. I also have to wonder if I don't sight-see more while on a trike, since I'm never concerned about balance and thus my speed either. :wink9:
     
  13. A.D.

    A.D. #1 Custodian

    Region:
    SouthEast
    State/Country:
    TN
    City:
    Athens
    Ride:
    Reynolds T-Bone
    Name:
    AD
    Then again, there are always exceptions to any basic rule...:wink9:

    The record for cycling from Land's End to John o' Groats is held by Andy Wilkinson, who completed the journey in 41 hours, 4 mins, 22 secs on a Windcheetah 'recumbent' tricycle in 2000. On a conventional bicycle, the record is 44 hours, 4 mins, 20 secs, set by Gethin Butler in 2001.(1, 2)​
     
  14. WardJ

    WardJ

    Region:
    SouthEast
    State/Country:
    GA
    City:
    Columbus
    Ride:
    Windcheetah SS #481
    That trike was a fully enclosed Velomobile. The shell was made out of Kevlar and carbon fiber and the whole thing weighed about 40 LBS. a weight which hasn't been matched by any current carbon fiber velomobile said.

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  15. BlazingPedals

    BlazingPedals

    Region:
    North
    State/Country:
    MI
    City:
    Haslett
    Ride:
    M5CHR
    Name:
    John
    Good summary from Serenity. I would add a few more:
    Two wheels - wheels are in tandem and you only have to miss obstacles for one wheel track, three wheels have three tracks to hit obstacles.
    Crowned roads can be obnoxious to ride with 3 wheels.

    The only real advantages that trikes have are in the area of balance. They're easier to learn because you can't fall down, and you can go as slow as you want because... they won't fall down. Trikes excel in parking lot test rides. Virtually anyone can ride one on the first try, and Like with the late, unlamented Bike-E, that is a major factor in sales. "Fast" is not an attribute normally associated with trikes.

    As I've thought about it, there is one more advantage of trikes. The paired wheels (usually 2 in front) aren't trapped by stays, so you can remove the tire for flat repair without removing the wheel. Fenders may complicate that, though.
     
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